Dr Jacob Teitelbaum is a board certified internist and nationally known expert in the fields of chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, sleep and pain. He has authored numerous books including the best-selling From Fatigued to Fantastic! (now in its 4th edition). He is the lead author of numerous studies on effective treatment for fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, and one study on effective treatment of autism using NAET. He also developed the popular free smartphone app "Cures A-Z." Dr. T lives in Kona, Hawaii.To learn more about Dr T, you can email him at fatiguedoc@gmail.com or see vitality101.com or endfatigue.com
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welcome back to another episode of
Christian Natural Health today I'm
excited to have Dr tidle bomb with us
again Dr Jacob tidle bomb is a board
certified internist and nationally known
expert in the fields of chronic fatigue
syndrome fibromyalgia sleep and pain
he's authored numerous books including
the bestselling from fatigued to
Fantastic which is now in its fourth
edition he's the lead author of numerous
studies on effective treatment for
fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue
syndrome and on one study on effective
treatment of autism using naet he also
developed the popular free smartphone
app cures a toz Dr K lives in Kona
Hawaii welcome Dr title bomb thank you
so much for joining us since I live in
Hawaii I can go Aloha everybody
excellent and and it's gonna be fun
today for those of you who have fatigue
of any cause pain of any cause CFS
fibromyalgia or persistent symptoms from
coid we're going to teach you how to get
your life back today so it's going to be
a fun a fun day so Lauren can to take it
away yeah absolutely so let's talk about
long coid specifically uh so it's a
obviously a big concern for a lot of
people in the last couple of years can
you give us an overview of like how
prevalent is it and how does it
typically present for most people so
it's about 10% of the population some
numbers are going as high as 15% but I
think that that's a problem with how
they're diagnosing it they're making it
this big gigantic waste basket can you
imagine if you know they just developed
cars and suddenly the cars are matching
into each other and they have car crash
disease you know instead of saying well
there's skull fractures there's broken
legs there's um a bloody nose they're
calling all of them the same thing yeah
long Co by definition is any
symptom which is insane if you think
about it that persists after coid yeah
and that's one reason it's so hard for
them to good research is because they
really have to make proper diagnostic
criteria they're moving towards that and
given 10 20 years they probably will
um but what what we had to do in CFS and
fibromyalgia in the beginning too uh to
find the diagnostic criteria research
outcome measures blah blah blah blah
blah so bottom line what we're going to
talk about today well let me take three
minutes and talk about persistent lung
problems heart damage uh organ damage um
versus what we're going to focus on
which is persistent fatigue brain fog
maybe pain The Chronic the post chronic
fatigue syndrome so for those with other
forms of persistence injury um you can
email me uh at fatigue doang gmail.com
if you have shortness of breath I'll
send you the information sheet that's
that's the whole show itself um but
curamed which turns off inflammation
ellia if it's in the lung which turns
off lung inflammation and clinical
glutathione to turn off oxidative stress
these are three triggers for persistent
damage so for those with longer other
persistent damage those who had heart
disease like a heart attack or carditis
or the heart muscle is weak download the
cures a toz phone app and uh it's
there's a $2 upgrade with all this
information in the free app and just
look up heart disease it will give you a
recipe of things you can do on your own
that will dramatically increase cardiac
function um and can save your life uh
the the main problem of the things in
that app uh is that they tend to be
natural or generic medications which
means they're cheap which means it's
virtually illegal in this country for
anybody to effectively talk about
them um and now no bad people it's just
a quirk a quirk in our healthc care
system says to talk about treat using
something to treat a disease you have to
pay the 400 million to2 billion
regulatory process fees no problem I
know what you're selling is 10 cents and
if you pay that $400 million regulatory
fee everybody in the world can sell it
for 10 cents now and you'll go bankrupt
so you can't discuss it unless you do it
the way that drives you to bankruptcy
let have fun and talk all about it so
this is kind of a quirk in the system
people say well it's not FDA approved
all FDA approved is means is that it was
expensive enough that and patentable
that somebody was willing to pay the $2
billion regulatory fee um so it's
important to understand that most of
what we're going to talk about today are
lowcost things right right right and
that's why most doctors haven't heard
about
them yeah so my my little grant that I
was trying to avoid but anyway that's
important for people to understand why
doctors don't hear about this stuff and
that's because we only do what the drug
company voices in our head teach us to
do and that's only what's expensive yeah
unfortunately that's for sure yeah so
and is there a correlation between
between like other types of
post-infectious virus syndromes and long
coid are they similar are they different
they're the
same long Co is one of dozens of
postinfectious um chronic fatigue
syndrome fial thing it's it's the same
thing so if they simp if we simply take
hundreds and thousands of studies on
post viral and other CFS and
fibromyalgia we will already know that
we can
treat long Co long Co is very very very
very very very very very treatable um
and you look at the virus um you know we
what they're seeing there's new study
that came and showed this all this
remarkable new stuff we had never heard
about before like oh there's epine bar
reactivation we have only known that for
45 years it's a shocker seriously and if
you give the fan and cell bre to knock
it
out get better oh what a shock both
generic don't hold your breath they're
they're trying to combine them into a
patentable new combination are they
really which will probably be about
$24,000 a year um and but I that takes
time and money um you know they oh they
also found that cortisol was
low yeah's see at my 1990 something
study we kind of showed that and did the
you know showed that you don't get the
adrenal supr question of give the
cortisol at the right dosing in form and
but headline so the headlines are
basically like Rome Falls you know
or and these things are kind of old news
so um if you have long Co you have
fatigue brain fog those two are the
homeworks uh 40% of you will have
trouble sleeping uh that's fear 60%
moderate in about a year that will go to
about 90% of you will have trouble
sleeping first year we see increased
sleep hypers soundance and then that
progresses to insomnia and some people
start with insomnia and you may have
widespread pain um and we understand
what causes that this is not rocket
science uh the low energy from the viral
infections and other things triggers the
muscles get locked in the shorten
position you think about when you come
out home after a heavy workout their
muscles are low in energy from working
out they don't go loosen up they're
height and they hurt and you start to
hurt all over you get chronic pain and
triggers brain pain or or Central
sensitization which triggers small fiber
neuropathy and you've got the pain this
is you know there's seven types of pain
but those are the three main and that's
to progress and this is this is old
stuff Lauren and you know that and I
know that um so what we're here today is
to let you know out there those of you
suffering with this when you go to your
doctor and the doctor goes oh I don't
know what's wrong with you so you're
crazy in so many words tell him thank
you for letting me know what a complete
idiot you are and walk out the door
seriously I'm not overstating that a bit
I'm I'm dead serious there's no place
for that that's abusive and for them to
say I'm sorry I don't know what's wrong
with you that's different that's honest
let's see if you can find somebody who
does uh that's just honesty somebody
goes I don't know and starts to imply to
you and your family I'm like like
this yes abusive it's not acable anymore
absolutely and so can you um make the
connection for the for our listeners
between getting coid recovering from
coid and then having reactivation of
these other viruses what's actually
happening there so we still are work
teasing out the details of it but what
we do know this has been shown on the
research and we've known this for
decades is that once the immune system
starts to go down basically there are a
number of infections uh that that d
Drive immunity and that what and that
use the how's the easiest way these
viruses don't make their own energy they
don't have energy furnaces called
mitochondria they hijack our body's own
Energy Systems and use that energy to
reproduce our body is trying to to fight
them by shutting down energy production
and starving
them okay which is kind of brilliant if
you think about on the body part this
where what we call methylation issues
come from it's not the genetic
mutilation defects which are not defects
at all uh but everybody's positive on
them and they're all excited I've got a
defect no you don't um this is what
you're seeing is in most people in small
tiny about 1% have a true homozygous
mutilation defect where it's an issue
the other 57% of you sorry it's just a
normal variation and they're chasing
smoke that's doesn't mean that
methylation issues aren't important but
it's not
genetic uh my book will talk about how
do you tell true methylation issues how
do you approach the methylation issues
you know the mthf avoiding and certainly
I'm not negating that I'm just saying
we've got it drunk right you know we
love it when we have a test that's
positive
because I'm not crazy and but there's
many tests that are positive for
everybody in the world and your
hubcaps so you want you want to
distinguish and again some some of the
companies don't like me because I do
distinguish I don't take money from any
of them so um so forgive me and if I say
something that pisses you off please
ignore it that shoe doesn't fit you just
toss that that shoe sorry about that um
so it's shutting down energy production
to starve the virus and how does it know
when to turn energy production back on
it's looking for this viral foreign DNA
as long as it sees it the little siss
come up and chopping it up mRNA chew up
all the foreign DNA um and then once
there's no more foreign DNA it sounds
you all clear energy comes back up and T
you're back to doing what you're doing
but what happens if for DNA doesn't ever
get completely
eliminated or there are certain viruses
like epine bar that are shingles virus
Chicken Box that the bodies for some
reason never completely dest it takes
some and locks it up in little jail
cells my guess is that these are viruses
that are common and the body has learned
that unless we're constantly training
the troops against them uh we forget how
to so certain viruses it keeps small
amounts of them just so the new troops
can come hey okay learn how to fight
this guy in a controlled
environment yeah it keeps them in check
um but when our immune system goes down
because it's constantly fighting a virus
that's gone and has no energy
you'll see
jailbreaks and Epstein bar is the most
common jailbreak I think um so we're
seeing in Co another study showed
something new that we've known for 37
years that the uh the we see what's
called viral reactivation of epine bar
virus and then you've got to treat it
and put it back in jail again I mean I
do that with a fan very Cel combination
there are a lot of immune stimulations
all kinds of ways to do it but that's
that in the research seems most
effective right now um but again takes
about in the studies they do it six
months um I tell people going to take
four months to see but that's just what
the fan ver this combination is more
often about 10 to 12 weeks to really
start seeing the benefits and you said
it was celx and what what was the other
thing fam cycl
famir um famir is a old antiviral is now
generic and um and the celra is an old
arthritis medicine that it was funny in
my books got 20 some years ago I note
that for fiop pane um the ibuprofen type
medications do nothing with the
exception of celra and I don't know why
celra helps turns out celra is also
antiviral oh interesting didn't know
that the two work together they're
synergistic very cool okay so you've
authored numerous studies on
specifically long coid so you use that
any other specific protocols that you've
used in there yes so here's the thing
what you'll find um my Approach is
treating the viral components as one
piece of it but mostly restoring energy
production if you turn energy production
back on because that that affects many
systems um when you have low energy
throughout the body first thing that
happens is you flip a circuit breaker
called the hypothalamus it's little
almond siiz the over here it controls
sleep that's why you can't sleep it
controls your hormones that's why all
your hormones are out of whack despite
normal tests it controls autonomic
function so your pots you stand up blood
resses your legs your pulse goes up and
over time the blood pressure goes down
you get brain foggy because not getting
blood flow um so all of these things I'm
going to address the whole
pattern and what I randomized double
blind Place control study showed um was
that if you treat with what we call the
shine
protocol excuse me you're optimizing
sleep
addressing hormones again despite normal
tests um normal means you're not in the
low as 2% of the population two standard
deviations that doesn't mean you're
healthy uh most doctors have no idea
where the normal range comes
from um so normal range shoe sizes would
be six to 13 I wear a size 12 if I put
on your size eight you put on my size 12
the doctors will say those shoes are
both normal and there is no
problem right low adrenal this recent
studies showed that as well we're going
to adrin there's a so let's go through
quickly sleep um melatonin I like C
anger Le there's an
ep220 uh C anger Le 10 milligram
melatonin I take that myself each night
there's a mix of six herbs called I had
chronic fatigue syndrome in 1975 had
actually knocked me out of M scho and
left me homeless for year that's how I I
learn to recover um and I feel great but
I still do certain things to protect
my energy production um I'll take a mix
of sleep or what's called The
revitalizing Sleep
formula um and then for severe thing
there's over 30 things that my book
talks about for sleep so you can get
eight hour sleep but the key thing is a
high dose one is just going to leave you
hung go over the next day um low doses
of several things work much better than
a high dose of one for for Sleep
interesting yeah hor hormones p a weight
gain cold intolerant you need thyroid
hormone I don't care what the blood test
show um do you get irritable when hungry
that's that's low adrenal to get heav
infection that comes around and takes
forever to go away that's low adrenal
I'll go with adrenoplex I'll go with
very very low dose
hydrocortisone uh the equivalent of four
milligrams of prona last usually less
than that which has them sh to be safe
uh higher doses horribly toxic um the
reproductive hormones 70% of men are in
the lowest 30th percentile for
testosterone um you don't need to give
testosterone and and 30-y old men you
give clopine turns testosterone
production back out on its own um in
women if your long Co symptoms are worse
your around your menes I'm not talking
about irritability that's low
progesterone I'm talking about brain fog
uh you know the fatigue the achiness all
that stuff insomnia is wor throughout
your menes that's low estrogen progest
and those can be addressed with
bioidentical so basically shine sleep
hormones the low blood pressure or pots
issues Dr Rep pulse infections including
viral antibiotic sensitive candida all
of those nutritional support and
exercises able you do that our studies
show 91% of people improve with an
average 90% increaseed quality of life
think that's awesome and I love that
You' published this because there's so
many people that I talked to who are so
afraid just increases the fear of coid
with the fear of long coid what if I'm
going to be like chronically debilitated
if I get this but there's ways address
it and that I think is what the message
that people need to be getting you can
prevent this is study in Lancet I
believe 50% of cases of long coid by
simply giving people the medication
Metformin uh and within the first five
days getting Co even if you give it
later it helps but if you give it in the
first four days it's 60 3 to 67% less
risk of getting long Co now a big
problem with a metformin metformin it's
it's it's only $10 for the whole course
so it's we can't we can't do that
because it's only $10 damn it you know
so right anyway it's yeah this and this
is a study about thousand people that's
it how does that work we don't know we
don't know okay all right fair enough I
can give you all kinds of theories as to
why it may work
yeah but I'm just guessing just okay
yeah that very curious I know that that
one's been used for longevity medicine
recently so I wonder yes something to do
with that but yeah it may help the
energy crisis it also is specific
against this the spike receptor it
there's all kinds of things that
decreased uh hospitalizations deaths
dramatically also but can't talk about
that because we'll take it off but this
is a major study that is is recognized
by experts
matter cheap sorry we're not allowed to
talk about
it um so any if I'm being an idiot
please
just as a I've been in medicine 50 years
now and
it's I've got both a sense of humor and
I get frustrated a bit when I look at
the system is geared it's we say we're
evidence-based no we're not we are
dollar-based um and the system controls
virtually all the Outlets of information
we which means everybody's saying the
same lie and the LIE is what's expensive
is good and what's cheap is
crackery even if it's a generic
medication and so uh and again no no bad
people everybody I haven't met a single
bad person out there you know they're
all good people but the system is a
little how much the unish word for
it's a screwed
up sure absolutely so okay so what have
I not asked you on the subject of long
Co
leave the audence how do you start okay
so here's the thing because I know my
college nickname is rambling Jack so you
can see how I got that um and med school
I was a phantom because 2: to 4 in the
morning I'd be um ghosting through the
stacks of the hospital Library pulling
journals and comparing I I I like to do
20 years ago 50 years ago 100 years ago
today and I would pull from those dates
just to get a a sense of the flow that's
when I realized
things that are not high cost
medications right around the time
pharmaceutical industry did this that
research all
stopped it was as if anything is not
expensive medicine was like knock off
that nonsense you're out of here um
which is being 20 years old then you
second youngest in my med school class
um was
uh a
shock but this they're teasing us that
we're God we know everything we're
doctors it's all science and C see he
say like oh it's not was sh anyway how
do you begin um nice easy way my email
address if you have a piece of paper
write it down fatigue f a t gu D
@gmail.com ask for the long Co
information sheets I'll will send you a
4,000 word article summarizing shine on
how to approach it and and where to go
for information there's all different
things I'll basically walk you you know
hold your hand and with the information
in the sheets walk you through it I'll
send you information on lotos now Trex
Zone which is an absolute you should get
your doctor to prescribe but again it's
cheap but the doctors won't hear about
it and they won't know about the
research um I will send you an
information sheet on orthostatic
intolerance which will basically give
you two home tests you can do that will
tell you if you have it you don't need
till table testing and tell you how to
treat it that's when you stand up your
blood brushes to your legs and stays
there CU gravity um um so it teaches how
to get the blood back up to your brain
so you feel better so if you email me
I'll send you those um a simple test
though is you know for the the
orthostatic intolerance or pops sit down
for lie down for 10 minutes and then
check your pulse and then stand in one
place and check your pulse every a
minute or two for 10 minutes if it goes
up 30 beats a minute or more it confirms
you have PS and then a cardiologist can
guide you with it or the information
sheet can guide you better um or if it
goes up 20 Pats a minute and you have
the fatigue and brain fog then I think
you still have pots and just to be still
be addressed because it's not hard to
treat once you know it's there and you
know how to do
it awesome so you've kind of told us but
where can people go to find more about
you so okay so the website Vitality
101.com will have information
if you're interested in supplements that
help energy and where I would begin
those I have at the end
fatigue. uh and what I would do is start
there's a three pack that I put together
for people and all of this except the
smart energy is also available on Amazon
and then if you buy it on Amazon I don't
make a penny on any of this in case
you're thinking he's just selling me
stuff I'll tell you this you could he's
how you screw them you get the stuff on
Amazon and he won't make a penny on it
and you know what I'm gonna say
just get it get better that's all good
um so the the bundle that has the
multivitamin clinical Essentials the
hrg80 red ginsing chewable tablet um
which is we did one study of 188 people
half of them roughly with post viral
chronic fatigue syndrome uh energy went
up an average of about 60% I mean this
is for and when I take it I just take
half a tablet a day I just take it a day
like today this morning that's one re D
but
it's um nice simple things clinical
Essentials hrg80 rensing chewable
tablets and then the Smart Energy System
for most of you that will probably an
average of about W energy just for those
three and then you have all these other
things using the shine protocol that you
can add in I would TR your instincts
with it and and then
or you can go see Dr Lauren and she will
expertly guide you and get you better uh
as as Dr Lauren has noted as most
experts who have done this in a while
although you I think you haven't done it
at that long because you're not a little
younger than my daughter
so so you learn your quick study is what
it is it's not a big deal to get people
better you know this is incredibly
treatable and if you had it and you're
afraid what if I get Co it again have
your doctor prescribe the metformin you
can ask me for the metformin information
sheet you have shortness of breath ask
for the shortness of breath information
sheet you have infertility ask for the
infertility information sheet happy to
send you any of these things just know
this is not a big deal the media wants
to scare you to death because that's
where the money is they want to scare
you to death and make you hate everybody
turn it off they're just making crap up
on both sides I'm I'm on the media a lot
for some reason they still like me I
don't know why because I keep telling
everybody turn them off right but anyway
uh if I'm quoted correctly where it
really says what I'm saying 20% of the
time it's quite a bit if they're totally
making up words we not a single word
they're quoting me is in there it's
about another
20% and the rest of the time they're
just taking a few words to say exactly
what they decided they were going to say
that weren't really what I was saying so
nice people yeah absolutely but when
when it when it stops entertaining you
it starts feeling bad there's a tii
move
breathe Center reach out to the side
grab the remote control and
click that's the key you'll feel so much
better absolutely absolutely well thank
you so much Dr tilean this has been
great laen always a
pleasure okay be well everyone
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