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Homesteading, Homeschooling, and Elderberry Farming - Brad and Starla Walker

Hosted by
Dr. Lauren Deville
Released on
November 24, 2023

Brad & Starla Walker have 8 kids and live on their 15 acre homestead in Southern Indiana, just outside of Louisville, KY. There they garden, raise livestock, homeschool their children, and operate their family business, Abby’s Elderberry. They have personally experienced the benefits of elderberry for years and jumped at the opportunity to take ownership of Abby’s in late 2022. Since that time, they have shipped their products to 48 states and have about 20 retail locations to date.To check out Abby's, see https://abbyselderberry.com/You can also follow Brad and Starla's podcast, The Fruitful Family Podcast on any podcast player or on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WSfaFiQDqIGO27mq1yYIg

Transcript

welcome back to another episode of Christian Natural Health today I'm pleased to have Brad and Starla Walker

with us Brad and stara have eight kids and live on their 15 acre Homestead in Southern Indiana just outside of

Louisville Kentucky they there they Garden raise livestock homeschool their children and operate their family

business aby's Elderberry they have personally experienced the benefits of Elderberry for years and jumped at the

opportunity to take on ownership of abies in late 2022 since that time they have shipped their products to 42 States

and have about 20 retail locations to date that's amazing guys so welcome thanks for coming on the show thanks

thanks for having us yeah so first tell us a little bit about the homesteading lifestyle like uh is it generational was

that a decision that you guys just made on your own how'd that happen so just the no it's not

generational um my granddaddy was a Dairy Farmer but my um my dad kind of

grew up in the suburbs my mom wanted to get as far away from the farming life as possible and uh so I grew up in the

suburbs of St Louis and had no real

skills of related to Homestead farming uh hunting processing animals

growing anything if it didn't come out of a box I didn't eat it right so um yeah and then we got

married 11 years ago and all that

changed so this is you star it sounds like so kind of I had some good friends

in college who grew up on dairy farms and it always looked like fun to me

having a large family being more connected to the land that was appealing

but I had never truly lived in the country and so I honestly didn't know if I would like or love living in the

country um but I knew that I wanted to eat healthy and feed our family healthy

food farm fresh food um and so I for me it's not

generational either I mean many generations back yeah they were farmers but uh my Grandma had

a garden and my mom had a garden a few times growing up but that's really the extent

of yeah uh farming that I grew up around okay so how did you learn after you know

if you neither one of you had the background yeah so Brad was in law enforcement and I really wanted when we

got married he was a police officer and then about a year after we got married he stopped doing that um but I knew he

could shoot a gun so I really wanted him to learn how to hunt Y and so I found

the sweet older gentleman who his wife wanted him to have a a hunting buddy and

so I kind of I introduced them and I nudged Brad and I said let's do this

actually the way it worked is I showed up late to like a breakfast that my mom

was hosting of her neighbors and by the time I showed up to the breakfast they already had our first plan uh hunting

trip scheduled you're like oh okay then I was like I guess I'm going hunting

so it was just never something that really interested me because you were

you know you're sitting 15 ft up in the tree and it's usually cold and it's quiet and you're just waiting and hoping

for something to walk by and I was like that sounds stupid and uneventful

and um that year uh I it was the last

day of the season and I shot my first deer the last day of the season and like actually for

the first time in my life put um we cooked some of it for dinner

that night so you knew how to clean it and skin it and do all the things he did

he did my so he taught me he taught me all of that stuff and so we took some of

it and we cooked it that night and I just had this like this like Epiphany like I can actually provide food for my

family like not by working a job and going to the grocery store and buying

whatever junk that they have right like I could actually do this and when I got

that first deer I was I was hooked and so from

there it was we lived on a quarter acre um in a pretty

Urban setting yeah we had uh a we had had chickens I think we had six chickens

that came with the house so we already had yeah just egg laying chickens that we

were renting it from some friends and they couldn't take their chickens with them and asked if we wanted them and we

were like yeah we'll take them yeah okay cool wow yeah so we had chickens and then he learned to hunt yeah and then we

the first thing we butchered outside of the deer was rabbits okay so we had meat

rabbits in the city which if you live in the city a few chickens and meat rabbits are the thing to do because No One's

Gonna know that you have rabbits in your backyard true I guess and if you do they'll just think it's a pet yeah you

just have to set up a little tent to butcher which would be fine I mean you totally could do that so what was going

on Wow interesting yep but just like the deer I got when I got hooked on

Hunting we so we started adding uh meat chickens so I built a like a portable

pen in the front yard of our quarter acre house and we would put meat chickens in it and we would move them

every day to a different section and to I mean ultimately to answer your question we learned everything through

YouTube we started we started buying books um Joel salatin books we started

watching Justin rhods and some other people on YouTube and um we we just got hooked and

then from there we would have people over for dinner and we would cook them one of the chickens that we raised they

probably taste totally different right and they would praise that this was the best tasting chicken they'd ever had and

they would want to take one home with them and so we thought oh we could if we

did this enough sure then our chicken would be free right uhuh and so all as

all this is going on I'm looking I'm getting more into hunting and I'm wanting my own

place to go hunting and so we looked for land for three years M and we found our

current place that we have now which was a total Providence from the Lord that we

got it it had two contracts on it before we got to it and they both fell through

and um yeah and so um we had a five-year

plan that we were G to make homesteading our full-time job that's great wow and we did it in two years and then coid

happened and we just have so many children that the government probably wrong Lee but it's it is what it is we

got a lot of money that year because we have so many children and so we just poured it all into the farm wow so

that's amazing how everything worked together in the perfect timing crazy and so do you guys have a community around

you now that you is it all is it all still YouTube or do you have like a a community of other homeschool F or

homeschool Homestead families around you as well yeah so there's quite a few we've built some friendships and some

relationships in in the area um where we've we help each other

out I mean we've had cows get stuck in our Creek um and I call up a couple

friends and they come over and help me pull them out and yeah um we've shared equipment with people and things like

that so there's a there's a good Community here we've been able to teach

yeah um one of the pastors at our church I went over and showed his family how to

butcher chickens and things like that so cool we want to help people learn to

take take control of their food and for their own health and things like that

too yeah it's so adulterated these days so do you guys like have reciprocal trading at all going on like within the

community do you trade or you mostly just trade knowledge and help each other out kind of a thing um there's I mean

some of that but I think once you live in a community like this it just sort of happens naturally you know like you'll

pop over to someone's house and like hey I have this bushel of whatever yeah you want it EXT sure got it yeah it's just

it's it's it just comes in Seasons yeah that makes yeah and people so we do it

as a business and for profit and we have a lot of friends in the community that

don't they just grow crazy a ton of

stuff and then when they harvest it they're like I don't know what I'm going to do with this yeah sure no that and so they literally

come like carrying crates over to our house and they just dump it out on our table and then we spend the next two

days lacto fermenting it fermenting jalapeno peppers and you know we get

corn and tomatoes and we make salsa and all that kind of stuff so and then we give stuff away AB because we usually

whatever they give is often more than we could use too um and I I think that's

the great thing about Community is that you you do something and then someone just happens to be over and they're like

oh what are you doing and then it encourages them to do it and so you're it's it's one thing to see it on YouTube

and then it's another to know that someone is do like it is attainable because a normal person is doing it it's

real yeah and so I think I think that Community part is important and it's there if you move to the country or even

in the suburbs and and you're there and you're just kind of who's homesteading who's doing stuff someone is doing it

and we're all in a different place in our skill set so like right now we

butcher we do uh bees I uh make bread make bread I lacto

for mint um I make sves and I tincture a lot of things so but things that we

haven't done yet like oil pressing or I don't know there's a lot of things that we haven't gotten into making our own essential

oils making wine we haven't done that so there's just a lot of things that it's encouraging to see other other people

doing because then like oh yeah we need to add that in yeah that's great so give

me a rough idea of like both of your schedules morning toight what are you doing with your days so it's not as

crazy as most people would it as it sounds like it is um so we're generally

awake maybe it is I I think it is it it depends on the season but yeah

so we're usually awake six or seven o'clock in

the morning you share yours and then I'll share what I do because it is different yeah and so uh so usually I'm

up by 7 o'clock um we I'll share some of the that we both

do together like we we do it and we the kids do it the first thing we do when we

get up is we read our Bibles and spend time in the word um and then usually

I'll try to I'll spend my morning doing some administrative stuff for the business um and then I'll I'll get to it so if I

have we have a commercial kitchen on our property so our Elderberry business I don't have to go to work I just walk 20

feet down to the barn and go to the kitchen and the kids come and hang out with me and they help me so I'll be in

there for two or three hours I'll come back up um if they're not sending me

lunch I'll eat lunch I package up orders that have come in I try to get to the

post office every day ship stuff out we

we have dinner together um we do Family Worship together one night a week so we open up

I teach the Bible we sing songs together um and then

um yeah and then usually we have a bedtime routine um oh well we have a special day

so one thing that we do that's probably unique to a lot of families is so one thing that we learned a couple years ago

is that with so many kids they were not getting good one-on-one time with us and our attention was always going

elsewhere and so um Monday through Friday right now currently Monday

through Friday uh each kid has a day and so um they know what their day is and

we're about to add another one in the next six months or so right Nora will get her own day yeah she's ready in the

next six months or so they get they get uh anywhere from one to two hours just

with us so all the other kids have to leave they have to go to their room and so we spend time with just that kid doing something that they want to do y

and they also get a special snack right which is usually a homemade treat of

some sort so they only get sugar from us like once or twice a week usually and

that's one of those times um so we're trying to teach them moderation with

sugar consumption we don't want it to be something they never have so that when they leave our house they're like I'm

just gonna eat bags of candy every day we want them to learn moderation um and

E choosing choosing wisely you know a home baked good that has organic ingredients is World worlds apart from

something from the store so but that's that's the general gist of my we do eat

we make three meals a day we eat three meals a day together as a family so

you're yeah your is yeah so I wake up usually a little bit before you usually I'm up around 6 um I'll read the Bible

have a cup of coffee and then fold laundry put it all away we have an awesome laundry system that is like

joyful to do laundry instead of like pulling your hair out because you have so much laundry we just have a whole

bunch of Sterilite containers that has each person's name on them and they are

stacked too high on top of a table and I just take their clothes from on top of

the Sterilite containers and hold them and put them in their clothes and it or

in their boxes and it probably takes me half an hour to 45 minutes to do everyone's laundry and I'm do probably

three loads a day most days some sometimes more um so I I do that I usually watch a

YouTube video something that either has to do with faith um a skill or health

and so I've learned a lot just watching podcasts on YouTube because I'm I'm

doing it for 30 or 45 minutes every single day and I do think that's so

important um because we all need encouragement to do the right things you know reading the Bible staying in the

word um being being a Christian eating healthy being self-disciplined in other

areas so I I do think that time is really important I think especially for

moms yeah um homeschool yeah so then after that I'll do other chores I we

we're minimalists we're maximal with our children and our books so we have to be

minimalists everywhere else yeah you get your priority straight for sure yep so

we um I go around the house and tidy things up and our kids also tidy things up we get

dressed um Everybody fixes their hair we

we usually don't eat breakfast until 9 or 10 o'clock every day lunch is pretty

small yep um but once breakfast comes we're starting you're starting

homeschool kind of throughout the day until two or three right so we yeah after we eat breakfast then which is you

know homemade usually the kids help me make whatever we're having usually it's some something to do with

sourdough um and protein and then uh we homeschool we do

classical conversations Type U memorization things and then we do

science and then they all do individual book work for language arts and math and

then a few times a week Brad reads history to everyone but they're also learning a lot of history through

classical conversations um yeah and geography which is so important and they

also do handwriting and typing every day so they're really hitting all the different things and school only takes

them two hours oh wow a day pretty much yeah I mean two to three hours for

each kid is the most that they're doing well the older ones are pretty self-directed at this point we've the

10-year-old and the nine-year-old pretty much kind of are able to get their stuff they know what's expected of them they

can sit down and do it and thank they know that the sooner they get it done

for the most part they know that the sooner they get it done the 10-year-old knows that anyway yeah the 10-year-old knows that um then they can move on to

doing because they're little budding entrepreneurs they want to start businesses and figure things out and so

they're trying to do that throughout the day too and so yeah so and then um I do a massage every day pretty much at some

point um and they usually watch TV while I do that um which that's probably one

of their favorite parts of the day or they go outside and play um and then the rest of the day besides the three hours

of school two to three hours of school um they usually play the piano or guitar during that time at some point also the

rest of the time they're outside or doing some sort of project that they really want to do um Fant so are you

guys ever able to go on vacation if you've got like all this stuff to take care of how does it take care like how

do you leave yeah so we we have hadn't gone on vacation in a while because we had dairy

cows yeah that's what I'm wondering and yeah and that really tethers you so one of the one of the beautiful things about

this lifestyle is that it tethers you to the to the land yeah um that's also the

downside of it too is that it tethers you so much that it's really hard to do anything really um but we didn't have

any dairy cows this year and so um we were able to her parents live in Myrtle

Beach okay and so we are able to get a Myrtle Beach

vacation road trip with the kids yeah it's hard to vacation when you've got seven eight kids but we get to go we get

to go to Myrtle Beach and uh spend some time there and get away and so we've had

we've had some people uh come look after our place and things like that and feed our chickens the dogs and stuff maybe

that right but uh yeah we we managed to get away

some great so and then so as far as the gardening do you Garden or do you farm

like do you make all the fruits and vegetables or not make but you know grow them um all the things that your family

eats or do you buy stuff in the store still or how does that work yeah we're probably

80% of everything that we consume we either grow it raise it or hunt it wow

yeah I mean I don't know maybe I don't know maybe not quite that much anymore because we don't have the cows anymore

so yeah I mean some of it depends on the Year too right um there are some years where I'm really on top of it with a

garden and then there are some like I had a baby pretty relatively fresh this

year during Garden season so we had a ton of tomatoes a ton of peppers a ton

of cucumbers lettuce cucumbers cabbage

like there were quite a few things I had a lot of my onions didn't do well this year our corn didn't do well yeah corn

didn't do well our potatoes did pretty good they did uh and so it just it just

depends on the year last year we had a lot even more potatoes and we had a lot

of uh squash and we just didn't the squash didn't do well this year

so um yeah varies yeah so it does vary per year and honestly talk to any

Gardener they always say that like there's always something that does better than usual and something that

doesn't do as well well and one thing we've been doing and this may be too home study but like our soil here is

just is garbage it's very hard and and

Clay yeah huh and so um and we have slate underneath us and so uh one of the

things that just it just takes time is re rebuilding good soil to make your and

so we had just set up um a kitchen Garden right in the front of our house

that is primarily everything that she uses and um the soil is is amazing right

there and so that Garden really flourished this year yeah and honestly

if I could if if I was to encourage someone to start gardening even I would

say put it right in front in front of your front door or back door whichever one you go out the most because it will

get lots of attention a garden that you have to walk a good bit of ways to get

to yeah it's just when you're busy inside it's not going to get as much

attention that definitely makes sense for sure so if you get a huge Harvest of

something I know you guys sell the elderberries do you sell everything or do you mostly like can and and find ways

to store the excess if so we don't really grow enough produce yeah so when

we were doing farmers markets uh we didn't do any farmers markets this year we did the previous two two or three

years we did farmers market and we were doing primarily meat and dairy okay got it so we were

doing we were doing milk and uh chicken and duck primarily and then we did like

holiday turkeys and stuff we've yet to grow enough produce to have enough to to

sell or really to share it's but with a family our

size it takes a lot so like we go we can pound potatoes we can pound green

beans all that stuff so um don't have to do a ton in terms of preservation

because mostly it's eaten sounds like yeah we I mean canning we do lacto

fermenting which is um and then we do you do some you freeze green beans and

stuff like that because I refuse to eat canned green beans it's just just a

thing it's just a thing I never liked Green Beans until I met this woman so so

she's she's working on you maybe that'll change so okay so as far you're you're

growing the elbery you're selling the elbery any other medicinal herbs that you're particularly

using yeah so I have tinctured okay probably seven or eight different things

from our property um yeah so I tincture

honeysuckle golden rod red clover uh I didn't tincture but I turned

it into a oh I can't I just can't think of what it's called when you use oil but um I did dead purple dead nuttle self

I feel like there's other things too and most of that stuff is just foraged from around it's not stuff that we're

planting intentionally we do have Yaro so I want to do something with Yaro in the past or in the future I've pined

hops that Brad had from making beer and oh there is one other thing I tinctured

oh uh sumac sty horn sumac yeah and so do you guys mostly do

kind of herbal Med for the family do you still do traditional medicine what's like your no okay and so is that to do

this stuff for we only use it when it's we feel it's absolutely necessary so we

haven't completely written it off we see value in it when because we have

we've had some a couple really sick kids at certain points we've used antibiotics

for I think two children twice once or twice and we have used albuterol there

was a season where we need needed Albuterol for a while for frequently doing breathing treatments for lung

issues and stuff but yeah but she had asthma for a few years and she's in complete remission she does she hasn't

had an episode in two years yeah you had used Elderberry for a

long time before you bought Abby so what do you make with it what do you use it for all of that yes so we

started making it you started making it like seven years ago I think is kind of where we've landed on that and here's

the irony is that I I hated it really I

I was like I would come home and I was like oh you made Elderberry again it just the smell of it and

everything about it just was not pleasing to me and and then we buy an Elderberry

business and it's it's everything for me now so so when you're just cooking the

elderberries it does kind of have an interesting odor but when you bring in cloves and cinnamon and ginger it smells

just kind of like Christmas yeah that's great so now when you're making syrup it's not straight Elderberry now you're

putting a bunch of different herbs in there all mixed together yeah so we have we have a recipe um we use organic

elderberries we have organic Ginger organic cinnamon organic clove and then

we use um as a sweetener either uh regionally sourced honey raw

honey uh we have a maple syrup Farm about 15 miles from us and so we use maple syrup from them for our Maple

variety so the things that that we can't get

like certified organic and things like that we're able to go visit the farm

they come from trusted sources that we know where it's go where it's coming from and what's in it and all that stuff

so we we put a lot of care and attention into the products that we're

creating great and so most people think of Elderberry for immune support do you guys have other things that you

recommend it for in particular it's

anti-inflammatory um so helps with joint issues and things like that um I was

reading an article the other day that said that it was good for heart health yeah also I'm sure because it's an

anti-inflammatory yeah and you know what's so interesting is that the more you study all the various plants almost

every single one of them is antioxidant anti-inflammatory antimicrobial it's like God just wanted us to be healthy

and he's got all things in there for it's amazing how many things within natural creation sure yeah have

medicinal create Health that people have in their backyards you know if they don't spray them and if their neighbor

doesn't spray them with poison then they can use them for sure awesome

so and so you said that you're making savs as well and tinctures and now syrups so is that basically the what you

typically do and then like whatever you happen to have excess of you'll look up what it does medically and then tincture it or how does that work yeah pretty

much yeah yep I just kind of if I'm like oh that looks like something that might be helpful to us well I also just kind

of know in general there's probably 15 things that I can go in my back yard and I know what that is so I haven't done

much with plantain yet but I my plan is to um I know we have Jewel Jewel weed

out there I know we have lots of different a few varieties of dock that I haven't messed with yet we have poke

berries that I'm going to do something with at some point there's just a few herbs that I know are there that I just

haven't done anything with yet that'll come somewhere down so okay so what kind purchas is

available online it sounds like because you get together uh packages and then you ship them off right y y so what was

it like to try to get your business I mean it's in 42 States you said and 20 retail locations how big an Endeavor was

that to get all that going well if I can update those numbers we actually we've hit 48 states now congratulations that's

awesome and uh which are the two that we missing yeah if anybody from Maine or

Delaware is listening please come come by from us because we want to finish off

the map here right right yeah um yeah so

it's we just it was something I wanted to do fun to track it because it would be easy you know it's great just like

slinging orders out and getting them shipped out but um you know when you homeschool everything's education and so

you get we started off with having the kids put the penss in and things like that and our map now we actually had a

Facebook memory yesterday showing the map a year ago go we have this huge it's

probably 4 by8 foot map over our desk and um we put a pin in every city that

we shipped to and so we had this map last year the picture of it and it was

pretty cool seeing like maybe like 20 or so States last year and now it's like

completely filled up and um it's a beautiful thing it's um it's been

overwhelming at times um but in a in a good in a very good way well to We Didn't

Start the business so we bought the business a year ago from John Moody and

his family so Abby is his daughter so aby's Elderberry and they started it as

a family business and she wanted to get a horse so they live in Kentucky in the

Rolling Hills of Kentucky and um we bought it from them a year ago and we

she got a puppy a so she hasn't gotten a horse she decided she didn't want a horse anymore

that and we had a litter of puppies and so she asked for a puppy and so she got her puppy so that's great but they're

they've been close friends you know I went to Seminary with John 20 plus years ago and uh you know John Cas kind of

just casually mentioned that he just had a lot going on he's started food

conferences and he speaks it different events throughout the year and it was

just more than he could give his attention to and the business was growing and it needed to grow more but

he just couldn't get it there he just couldn't give it the time to it and so he just casually mentioned it and uh we

jumped at the opportunity and um yeah it's been a wonderful

overwhelming kind Providence from the Lord that um that that we've had that

for the past year so so when he says we jumped at it he means we were fearfully excited about it

and then we like we talked about it a lot and I I very seriously considered

wet blanketing it because it that's my job that's her job as the wife so Brad

is a schemer which is awesome and I I really wish that more men were like that

slash had the Hooda to like go out and and do things like that because we need

that like we need husbands to step up and to start businesses and to take risks and as wives it's our job to

figure out like what is what is wise and what is just a fad

for this week that they won't actually enjoy doing because that's a way to help them is to to help them figure that out

and so um so yeah we we talked about it and we prayed about it and it was a big

risk I mean we took out a loan and and you know we're still in the process of

of paying for it but I think it was definitely worth the risk yeah and so that's the when

you're starting a new business or when you're acquiring a business that's already existing really counting the

cost and weighing the risk versus the benefit um

in the in the reality that right like just when you start a business you not you're not GNA make six

figures yes seriously right immediately it doesn't matter how good your product is you have to hustle it and and work

and we're I have I have hustled and worked hard um the past six to eight

months which is usually the off seon and now we're really starting to see fruit from that um September through February

March is really our busy season and we're we're starting to to see a lot of

fruit from that and um yeah the the fear is gone definitely and now it's how do

we keep moving forward how do we you know how do we get our name out there and fantastic good for you guys so what

have I not asked you that you want to make sure you leave with our audience our

website okay aby's Elderberry decom um is where you can buy all of our

products and there's actually uh if if you don't mind also we've started our

own podcast oh yeah okay um we we had to hit a pause on it because we have some

really old technology in our computers and we're trying to get that stuff updated and our

computers decided they didn't want to record and save and publish for us anymore so uh but the fruitful Family

podcast you can get to it through the ab Elderberry website um where we share more of our

story we talk about um our faith so part of our our faith is that I've been a

pastor for 17 in the past 20 so years and um not currently in that role now

but uh so we share how that shapes all of these decisions that we've made with

business and with family and why do we have a large family and think like that

um we talk about our farm and and the adventure and we take different aspects we've talked about Wellness we talked

about homeschooling all those different things so y so I'll link in the show notes to

both of those things and thank you guys so much this has been really fascinating for me to kind of peer behind the

curtain of what it's like with a different lifestyle so fantastic yeah we appreciate it yeah

it's really I think it's really fun I think the more you so I would encourage people in general like if you think you

might want to live in the country go for it I mean now is the time to buy five years ago was better now it's probably

going to be better than five years from now I just don't see land prices going down um so if you think you might like

it and you have a desire to live more in tune with nature more in tune with I think how God designed systems to be um

I absolutely think that you should you should do it you should try it because the worst that's going to happen is you

decide you don't like it and you sell it make a profit and go back to the city or

the suburbs you that was our plan yeah it's it's not a waste because land prices only go up

so yeah we have we have really enjoyed the safety that comes with living in the

country just having our children go outside be safe me not feeling anxious

that someone's going to kidnap them or you know what whatever they're going to see something really weird that they

shouldn't see um and they can just go play outside and be kids and they're not

stuck inside on a phone or on a tablet all day because it's beautiful outside and why

wouldn't you want to go outside our children are constantly saying and we have taught them this but even outside

of us doing this ourselves they're learning to do it they just they go outside and like Mom look how beautiful

this is or you know they'll just find a pretty leaf or a rock and children especially are so enamored with the

world that God created they'll admire it until they light it on fire with the magnifying glass but I mean and that's

but that's what they do yeah absolutely and so yeah I I think that that

experience is priceless um and I think we're not doing so much we're not trying

to do everything and you can't as a homesteader we're not I mean unless something big really happen happens even

so we're not going to be doing everything everyone if something big happened and things were not what they

should not what we're used to everybody would have to work together to do different things because one family just

cannot do everything um and so I think we're especially only on 15 Acres we

have too right but I think if we all don't try to do everything and we just do some things that we can and we don't

make it overwhelming then our children are going to want to do that too I think there have been times where farming just

sucked the life out of people and their children are like I don't want to do that that doesn't look like fun that

doesn't look that looks way too hard and so making it not so hard making it

enjoyable and showing them why we're doing it not only from the Bible but just practically for your health and all

these things I think it's going to raise up a generation of children who want to follow our footsteps not because they

have to but because they can yeah and going back to as you say the basics of the way that God created food to be and

you know getting in touch with the natural world so absolutely it's great right well thank you guys so much this

has been a pleasure yeah thank you so much for having us yeah thanks for having us are you looking for a

holistically minded Healthcare practitioner who truly treats root cause rather than symptoms suppression

unfortunately even in the alternative healing professions this isn't a given that's why I've created whole health.com

a resource to help connect patients to healthc care practitioners in their area who share a root cause philosophy

alternatively most of the practitioners listed also practice tella health so if there isn't anyone local to you you can

still find a great practitioner to help you regain Optimal Health go to Whole health.com that's wholehealth

dr.com type in your location or adjust the specialty that you're looking for and find the practitioner who's right

for you

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